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Paul Wheaton and Dave Bennett talk about Horticulture of the United States of Pocahontas, aka husp. Paul reads what he has written on it at permies.com, which involves native cultures in North America that respect the earth thriving. He thinks that how we cultivate food here would be radically different than it is, and more like a highly-evolved permaculture. Paul shares about his attempt to do permaculture with the Flathead Indian Reservation. He explains that If you’re going to make it as a farmer, there is a need for constant innovation. He encourages people to post at the forums, and yet, no matter how valuable your contribution, if you neglect to be nice, your post will be deleted. Dave shares about his neighbor growing up, Arthur, and his shaman’s garden. Paul shares about Forest Shomer’s project of showing what a chunk of land looked like hundreds of years ago with native plants and camas prairie. Europeans brought pigs, which ate up the camas. Paul mentions Heidi Bohan’s book, People of Cascadia, which shows how permaculture is like Native American agriculture. Paul talks about his sustainable food graph, which is in the husp thread at permies.com. He brings up how being 2 points higher in the Wheaton Eco Scale means that those 2 lower than you probably can’t understand you and think you’re crazy. He returns to talking about respect in the forums, and his right to censorship. He shares his respect for vegans, and desire that vegans and omnivores feel equally respected in the forums.